FOF #413 - Getting into Boy Trouble - 10.23.06
In the early 90s cartoonist Robert Kirby simply wanted to see the romantic stories of young gay men reflected in the publishing world and to reach out to other cartoonists like himself.
He started drawing his comic titled "Curbside" and then later (along with his friend David Kelly) started putting out the zine Boy Trouble, a self-made magazine featuring the drawings many artists who wrote illustrated stories about unrequited love, the desires of young gay men and survival.
Many years before the internet brought us blogs and chat rooms, the way many gay men found each other was through the small scale world of zines.
Today Robert Kirby joins us to talk about his new book "The Book of Boy Trouble" a collection of greatest hits from the popular zine's first ten years. In addition to Robert Kirby and David Kelly, the book includes favorites like Michael Fahy’s "Valentine’s Day Love Poem," Andy Hartzell’s "Dinner at Achmed’s," and Anonymous Boy’s "The Non-adventures of Wayne," plus 24 pages of spanking new work from both regular contributors and up-and-coming talents.
Listen as Gregg Shapiro and I talk with Robert Kirby about why gay men sometimes refer to each other as boys, the internet's effect on self-publishing, and the need for a frank discussion of love and sex in gay culture.
The podcast that gets into trouble with sexy results- the Feast of Fools.
Featured Books:
•The Book of Boy Trouble
•Curbside Boys: The New York Years
Featured Music:
Christopher Dallman - Race the Light: iTunes | CD Baby
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Quater Turns...
Said by: Jason Smith at October 23, 2006 03:21 AM
Oh NO, another book club from the FOF! I cannot keep up!
Said by: Mike Hunt at October 23, 2006 05:24 AM
Wow, what an interview!
Robert hit the nail on the head with his description of the term "boy". It's all a state of mind and how you feel on the inside that counts. I'm sure pup D will chime in sometime with the same sentiments. Both pup D and myself are boys of the Leather Community. We both belong to and are past Officers of the LA boys of Leather here in LA, a well known and respected Leather club.
The "boy" term, in Leather, simply states we are the playful submissives and enjoy the company and service to our Leather Daddies/Sirs.
Anyways, that could be a whole other episode and I won't go into the whole Leather boy culture thing here... :)
Just know I appreciate Robert and his heart feeling on being the boy he is regardless of age! Hell, I know boys well into their 50s and there isn't a thing wrong with it! You GO boys!
Love, Respect, and still kinky-
Buzz
1424 ALC
Said by: Buzz at October 23, 2006 09:37 AM
Uh oh...another impostor! I see you "Quater Turns" and raise you a correct one: Quarter Turns!
: )
-jason
Said by: Jason Smith at October 23, 2006 10:43 AM
Will the real Jason Smith please stand up!
Said by: Fausto at October 23, 2006 12:11 PM
remember... nominate the Feast of Fools at www.gaybloggies.com ... not sure what it's worth but might as well!
quarter turns for EVERYONE!
Said by: Jau at October 23, 2006 12:34 PM
I am standing! I am. I'm waving at everyone now. Can't you see? I'm over here!
: )
-jason
Said by: Jason Smith at October 23, 2006 02:53 PM
Hey, Madonna is in Chitown for an Oprah taping on Tuesday.
Here's your chance Fausto!!
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/artsentertainment/2003319008_webmadonna23.html
Said by: Mike Hunt at October 23, 2006 08:28 PM
I just bought the Boy book ( from the FOF site)and am exited to read it soon. I'm a lover of comics so can't wait to read a gay gay gay one. great show as for always... sorry for my emotional crapemail Fausto, i think im just working and studing to hard.I need a S.F. trip
I love you so and miss Marc lots can't wait to hear his Sexyback voice tommorrow.
Said by: Noé at October 23, 2006 08:54 PM
Great to hear a cartoonist on the show! I'd like to hear more gay visual artists in the future... :-)
Said by: Cory at October 23, 2006 08:55 PM
great show. i love gay art. specially comics. specially when porn is invloved ehe....
oh and... to make things more clear when Gregg mentioned the japanese gay porn comics.. or yaoi.. pronounced (yah-oi)
yea. it is super popular amongst straight woman on the internet.....it seems like you guys only saw a small fraction of it..it varies amongst artists...tho there are similar styles n' stuff that it very common.
i could go on forever. there is so much backround info on it.
i'm obsessed with it. can't get enough of it. >_>
i will consider buying this book tho!! it looks good.
Said by: Chickengirl at October 24, 2006 12:21 AM
yaoi is softcore, but shonen-ai is more hardcore gay-theme anime and manga...just fyi..and *smooch* thanks for the shoutout!
Said by: raequel aka systris at October 24, 2006 08:59 AM
Of the two major super hero comics publishers, Marvel has been far more gay friendly than DC. DC typically runs more of the gay stunt-casting (Green Latern's sidekick getting fag bashed, Batgirl coming out). Marvel, meantime, has consistently included gay super heroes since at least the early '90s. There have been several gay X-Men, a gay headlining super hero (Freedom Ring), and two teens in a functional, healthy gay relationship (Wiccan and Hunkling, both members of the Young Avengers), among many others. What I admire most about these characters and how Marvel handles them is that not only are they accepted for who they are, but their lives are portrayed with such normlacy. They aren't token gays, they're regular folks who just happen to be gay. Wouldn't it be a great ting if society could head in that direction? And what better way to teach children that it's OK to be gay and to accept homosexuals than to show them through comics that gays are just like anyone else? Props to your guest for mentioning Prism Comics.
Said by: Frank at October 25, 2006 09:24 AM
Hi, guys. I really loved this podcast (#413)! Christopher Dallman's songs are very catchy and engaging, they remind me a little of Daniel Cartier, one of my favorite queer singers, along with Rufus Wainwright, Stephin Merritt (in his Magnetic Fields guise), Antony, and the super ultra cool Uruguayan Dani Umpi. (I also love Eduardo Alegria of the Puerto Rican band Superaquello). I loved the discussion about "boys" (I'm 38!). I kind of liked Robert Kirby's awkward resistance to defining gay boy culture. Somehow it would have been easy to say that it's because we don't marry and have children, etc., society looks at us as immature, irresponsible, etc. not to mention the whole Dorian Gray never ageing bit (well, I spend lots on Aveda facial products!!! That's why I look like a boy.... I know how to moisturize and tone!!!). But anyway... this podcast was really beautiful, political, and engaging. Thanks, guys!!!!! Listening to it made me feel like I actually could connect to a broader world out there and not just the little world of Ann Arbor, Michigan, where I live....
Said by: Larry (latinobearboy) at October 29, 2006 11:55 PM
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