No offence to Tim, but I think Tim needs to give himself time to figure out who he is and what he wants. Committing to something like marriage without thinking things through will only end up in heart break. It seems like he is not really sure of who he is, but is also afraid of losing his close friendship with the woman — Leaving him all alone…

lol Thanks for the advice, but I must say it isn’t a sudden idea that popped into my head. I’m not going to go buy a wedding ring tomorrow or any time soon, but it is somthing I’d like to try with her. We’ll take it slow, but we both feel the same way about eachother. We’ll keep you updated.

Great show today.

As for Tim and Chelsea, I really doubt marriage is the proper course of action here. Tim is obviously not sure about his sexuality at this time seeing as he wasn’t even sure if he was bi, gay, or straight. I have a friend who’s unsure of her identity and really the thing that needs to be done is exploration. Chelsea needs to stay firm and not take him back with open arms right away and Tim needs to stop focusing on Chelsea and focus on figuring himself out. If you get together now you run the risk of finding out that Tim isn’t actually as attracted as he thought and the possibility of him wanting to explore later.

As a second point, you’re both 18/19 and even thinking about marriage at this point is crazy. If you got married right now you’d be in a relationship for about 55 years (unless you got divorced). There are people that get married and divorced in less than a year, let alone 55 of them. You may love her now, but once you’re married and living together, things can change.

And finally, if you guys fight over the people you’re in relationships with now, what’s going to happen later on? You’re both still human, you will be attracted to other people. If you’re getting jealous now, when you’re not even dating each other, what’s stop you from getting pissed over casual flirting in the future?

I am super-happy that Tim is exploring his options with both identity and bonding — and trying to make a sound decision. Relationships are fluid rather you like it or not. Good friends will have some dips in the deep end that both want to explore. In my case, my best high school friend of 20 years made a pass at me throughout our yoga trip in Costa Rica at the beginning of this year. It would have been the first experience with a women - ever! But, I realized that she really loves trees too!

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As long as Chelsea is not reading the book titled “The Spirit of Trees” - your fine. But perhaps, there is a little element on Tim’s end that he wants to tag onto the college experience that Chelsea is enjoing. My advice to Tim is that he should study his buns off and get the grades to transfer into the fertile grounds of real college since the best part of a college education is that it comes with free sex education too.

In that environment, you get the chance to explore a lot of options. The college experience is an amazing journey worth the effort. When you have the choice between two evils, choose the one that you haven’t done before. That is how you become opinionated!

Excellent show, guys. I got very little sleep last night because of the extensive heat here in LA, and this morning the drive to work seemed very surreal (because I was so tired) so your quiet opening added a lot of wierdness to the morning.

And Marc, you were ON today. You must have had one of Miss Ronnie’s energy drinks because you were too funny. Are you becoming a scat queen? How many times did you say the word “shit” on today’s show? LOL!

Tim, everyone’s gonna give you advice here but it’s only because we all share a certain kind of kinship being part of this board, so it’s only because we really care about you. Plus, a lot of us are older and have been through a lot of what you’re going through. I’m not going to say that your feelings for Chelsea aren’t real, but you do have to examine your thoughts about wanting marriage before you even date. People learn a lot about each other by dating and then living together. So if you want to go in that direction, give yourself a lot of time. On the other hand, she might represent something familiar in world where everything seems to be changing. And things are going to change, you can’t stop it. People do most of their changes at 18, 21, and then 25. You still change a lot over the course of your life but at those ages most of us become very different. You may someday find that your fascination with other men was just a curiosity, then again you may find that you really do like men and the idea of having sex with women is a lot less attractive. If that were the case you could still have Chelsea as a best friend for your whole life. You have no way of knowing. And tying yourself down to marriage at this age would be like not giving yourself permission to undergo the natural changes that people go through.

In my opinion, if things are meant to happen with Chelsea then you will eventually find each other again and it will happen. But you need to read the entire book before you can decide which chapter is your favorite. So go off and have fun, flirt, play around, date, but whatever you do, be safe! And if you need someone to talk to you have a whole big bunch of friends right here on the FOF board.

So Andy, you’re not coming with us to Steamworks?

Oh, Marc…not everyone has a lifetime membership…lol

Loved the show keep up the good work guys

I like Chelsea, she seems smart and well adjusted. I hope she has a positive influence on Tim. And you guys shouldn’t be so hard on Tim for going to community college… it’s a start!

Good show!

When I was 19, I was at college, having come out the previous year and living with someone I thought I would be with forever, but whom I left for good about a year later. I think it would have been much more difficult to come out if I had been living at home.

When I was 29, I was back living with my parents, stuck at a crappy job, but dating a fabulous guy.

When I was 39, I was living in San Francisco, working somewhere much more enjoyable, with my partner of 9 years (that same fabulous guy from back then).

In summary, you might think something that’s going to be forever is actually temporary, and something you think is temporary turns out to be forever.

Oh by the way did you guys see on the MTV Video Music Awards that the new Indiana Jones movie is called Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Maybe Bill Hadad can get a job voicing the skull for Steven Spielberg!