Here are the song lyrics-

BETTE DAVIS STAMPS
(sung to the song “Bette Davis Eyes” by Kim Karnes)

The stamps are now being sold
Much to our sweet surprise
They made her look not so old
We’ve got Bette Davis stamps

Just stick the postage on
You won’t have to lick twice
It’s worth it’s weight in gold
We’ve got Bette Davis stamps

She’ll adhese you
and she’ll please you
All the better just to mail it
She is postage
and she knows just what it takes to get it to you
She makes the postmaster general sigh
We’ve got Bette Davis stamps.

I don’t really know how these “gay schools” work, but I don’t think that completely segregating the gays is the solution. Now, what I DO believe in is more gay-friendly schools, with more out teachers, principals, etc. For example, here in the school system that I live in, in Florida, this county has a horrible policy that homosexuality cannot be an issue at all. If a student were to go to a guidance counselor and say “I’m gay and I have too much stress”, the counselor could do nothing, and the subject is to be discussed in the classes either. What we need is a more gay friendly society in the first place, and for that to happen in the school system, we need national recognition.

Tell your mother to vote for Obama.

Schools for homosexuals only is a result of the “good idea ferry” running amuck and taking the band-aid approach to something more serious.

Black people were segregated in the beginning and were then integrated and I am sure those trail blazers faced great hardships and violence but the paths they blazed were necessary for not only future black generations but for every ethnic/racial group.

We should although provide a “safe haven” for victims of violence but school administrators and staff should stomp violence and work to eliminate hostile environments.

And of course we should be teaching tolerance of differences.

Barbra Streisand’s gay son is Jason Gould. His father is Elliot Gould.

From Wki:

Jason Emanuel Gould (born December 29, 1966 in New York City) is an American actor, writer and director.

Gould is the son of singer/actress Barbra Streisand and actor Elliott Gould, who divorced 9 July 1971. Gould spent his formative years around major Hollywood players in Los Angeles, California.

Gould has appeared in Say Anything (1989) and the Streisand-directed film The Prince of Tides (1991), but has since rarely appeared in front of the camera. In 1997 he wrote, produced and directed the short film Inside Out, playing Aaron in the humorous story of the child of two celebrities who is outed by the tabloids. His real life father (Elliott Gould) also played his father in the short film. The short was later combined with other features for Boys Life 3 (2000).

Gould was outed around 1991 in tabloid newspapers.

smART show this weekend wonder if your guys are coming by?
Sept 12-14
Flat Iron Building Friday-Sunday for more details check out http://www.smartshow.org
Tracy bring your freinds and come and look at some art as well as meeting some Chicago Local artists. Talk about a Great Fun SHow…….and there will even be some gays there too!
Famous people expected to drop by don’t say I did not tell you so.
Bring your camera, I am not kidding!
This is an ALL AGES EVENT. Bring your MOMS and your kids.
If you like ART and you are ready to see it in all shapes and forms then this event is for you.

Love ya
-SAL-E

Hi Tracy-
I am glad you were once a Streisand fan. I have fantasized about meeting Jason Gould for years.
NYC has had a gay high school for many years. I wish that something like that was available when I was a teenager.

http://www.hmi.org/

Hey Tracy, Good to hear you again. Got your message from the Saugatuck podcast. We loved having you all up, and hope we can do it again. F & M, I have your tee-bag I’ll have to drop it off for you sometime.

Now for the comment. I agree with you, Tracy, about Barbra’s voice. From that Broadway album on, it’s all just one big over-produced blah. Funny Girl was her prime. Good podcast! Talk to you later

Tracy, you’re the only person, I know, that gets hit on at the Uptown Post Office! Lol!

As a person who dropped out of high school mostly because I couldn’t take being teased for “appearing” gay (I never came out until in college) I would have loved to have had the choice to go to a school for queer teens.

I guess in many ways Tracy is right that a lot of those “Fine Arts” high schools can provide a lot of solace to the queer teenager. For me music was my salvation.

I think that Marc had it right when we were talking about this off the air — there should be a school for the Bullies — don’t segregate the gays — put the bullies in special schools LOL

I also suggest put the bullies in a special school. They should be punished!
I made some good, straight friends in school and with only gay people I would have missed something.

I think Tracy needs to release “Bette Davis Stamps” as a single, lol. So cute! As for the Gay and Lesbian school, I think the best solution is to keep schools integrated and work on educating students about sexual diversity. Separating the gay kids is exactly what the bullies want.

LOVED the show, everyone! Tracy’s Kim Carnes impression was hysterical, and I loved the song! When will it be on iTunes for purchase?

I’ve been hearing all week about this “high school for gays” and I thought pretty much the same way as Tracy - it seems a lot like segregation to me… but I also see Marc’s point that it would be an option. I just hope that it would be used as an option for kids who just didn’t fit in anywhere else. I can’t imagine it wouldn’t be set up that way… but I do think that it’s important for kids to get the experience of dealing with discrimination at an early age — sheltering them from it will either make them bitter or completely naive to it. And trust me, being naive is not fun.

As for Tracy’s idea of an all-bully school… some girls might like that sort of environment.

No, I don’t think that’s what Rick is saying. As a queer, you’re going to stick out, no matter what, and no matter when in your life. He’s just saying that “dealing with discrimination at early age” will help you get better prepared to face life’s challenges, and I agree with him. At the same time, getting picked on every single day by bullies is not much fun either. So if you have the means and the desire to go to gay-only schools, go for it! Enjoy that high school Shangri-La! But remember that life outside of school won’t always be a cakewalk. It’s a cold, cold world out there.

input your comment here…

sorry rick…….i took that out of context xxxxxxx

well I think that– yes— you need to learn to deal with discrimination at an early stage HOWEVER it’s extremely damaging to be treated like a second class citizen in your younger years — I know from experience that you will grow up to always feel like the outsider as an adult and always feel like you are not good enough to be part of the main stream. Maybe gay schools are good in the sense that “ignorance is bliss” — when you graduate you will hit the world head on and with full force not dwelling on discrimination only to second guess yourself. You will be confident and self assured. I think sometimes the problem with gay and trans youth is that you feel alone and separate from the rest of the world and the bullying reinforces that insecurity and ingrains in you a life time of self esteem issues.

Studies show that girls that go to all girl schools do better academically than girls in co-ed environments. How they fair after high school, I don’t know, but being in an environment where they can express themselves more freely must be important to their development.

Maybe we can take a cue from their experience.

Also, the notion that pain and suffering make someone a “better” person or better suited to face the challenges that life can throw at you is simply wrong.

By that measure, people who come from war stricken areas would be the best equipped to face the “challenges” of life. What better training to give to a child than send them into a war zone?

Parenting and teaching involves the child feeling SAFE. When their safety is compromised because of trauma, bullies, violent people of any kind, the growing and learning process is compromised.

So the notion that “what does not kill us, makes us stronger” isn’t true? Nietzsche and Kanye West are such lying bitches!!! :-O

I can’t get enough of you guys-and Tracy! I was singing that song all last night.
Please come to Philly-we’ve got the best crack!

I dont believe these schools are totally segregated, at least thats the case with the Harvey Milk School in NY. There are straight and gay and everything in between students.

A school like that would have been a godsend for me. I was tortured mercilessly beginning in the 5th grade. Eventually I was assaulted by four men in my neighborhood on the street shortly after I took a boy to my junior prom. I had to enroll in a special ed class for severely emotionally disturbed kids as a result of all the physical and death threats. I actually got an incredible education as there were only 8 students and 4 teachers. It was a little slice of heaven for me and I wasn’t being battered on a daily basis.

The idea of removing the bullies is preposterous because the jocks, the popular kids, and the administration including the teachers are the bullies. They have no love for the outcasts or the unpopular kids gay or not.

I think that having a school that was advertised as accepting of all minorties, including GLBTQ, could be a very good thing. I don’t necessarily think that a school that was only for GLBTQ individuals would necessarily be good. I’ve found that when we as a group isolate ourselves from the rest of society, we begin to be as judgemental and start to stereotype straight people almost as much as we are judged and stereotyped. There needs to be integration of gay and straight society, and while that will take time to achieve, a school that truly treats all students equally, where teachers and the administration are sensitive to the different needs and experiences of minority students, and aren’t afraid of openly being able to have discussions about sexuality, sexual orientation, race, etc., would be wonderful.

Fausto, I didn’t come out until Universitiy either, and that was largely because of my parent’s religion, but my school experience was also very negative, and definately contributed to my fear of expressing my sexuality. I was beaten up a lot and called a fag even though I had a girl friend in HS. Even if I hadn’t come out, it would have been wonderful to be in a school where not only the students were more accepting, but also the faculty. A lot of teachers can be just as harmful to gay students as other students are. Children need to be safe, and I didn’t feel that way until my final year at university.

I just got my Bette Davis stamps!

i wish Tracy could be on the show more often…. i want me some China Buffet

Hello guys, I´m a little behind with the shows so I just listened to this one today… The Bette Davis song is a blast! And I checked the Giant Penis Man using Google Earth, because I almost couldn´t believe it!! And YES, it is visible from outer space…. It is close to Cerne Abbas (Dorset, UK)…